tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4569339779918111050.post1421673039395886600..comments2024-03-24T12:11:52.756+01:00Comments on The Nyudrev Chronicles: T-i-CPjotrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07839126310583926922noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4569339779918111050.post-33078821608020435722010-02-15T20:05:09.587+01:002010-02-15T20:05:09.587+01:00Speaking of making up names... In a PBEM campaign ...Speaking of making up names... In a PBEM campaign just beginning, I've had some fun dreaming up one-off names for the back-history of my Spanish-Austrian Archduchy of Iberia. At the failure of the ruling Iberian line, the Cortes of the Provinces have had to cast about the ruling families of Europa (an island continent) for a suitable candidate, settling upon an Archduke Rupprecht, a younger and potentially troublesome member of the House of the Herzogtum von Rechberg.<br /> <br />Of course, this alien prince did his popularity in Iberia quite a lot of good (after quiet and discreet enquiries of the Chancellor, Don Gregorio Garcia de la Vega) in marrying the lovely and popular, not to say talented, Donna Maria-Marcia de Montoya y Mantilla. These aren't 'joke names' so much as created to 'roll off the tongue'. I don't know: Spanish names tend to be like that...<br /><br />Mind you, I seem to recall upon his advanture in Spain, Asterix meeting up with a certain Don Huevos y Bacon...<br /><br />Cheers,<br />IonArchduke Piccolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533325665451889661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4569339779918111050.post-60314111239064232682010-02-13T10:25:22.560+01:002010-02-13T10:25:22.560+01:00Personally speaking, I'm with you on this one,...Personally speaking, I'm with you on this one, Pjotr. I do find the endless joke names on imagi-nation websites a bit wearing at times. What will happen when wargamers run out of names of beers and confectionary? I guess they'll have to try to be a bit more original - like using the names of musical instruments. Nice one, Ion!<br /><br />But putting aside personal preference, the point that imagi-nations in general and joke names in particular emphasise a light hearted approach to wargaming is well made. Showing that we understand our 'game' is just that, and thus distancing ourselves from the realities of real war, is a very honourable position.Keith Flinthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12903769462646267048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4569339779918111050.post-25733743343323374182010-02-04T09:45:34.488+01:002010-02-04T09:45:34.488+01:00... Besides, I could not possibly pss up his soldi...... Besides, I could not possibly pss up his soldiers' nickname for their monarch and commander Draco the XVI: "Der Alte Blitz".Archduke Piccolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533325665451889661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4569339779918111050.post-20172210600822853952010-02-04T09:42:42.558+01:002010-02-04T09:42:42.558+01:00abul666 - Speaking of Asterix the Gaul, I recall m...abul666 - Speaking of Asterix the Gaul, I recall many, many 'joke' names in those remarkable stories. But my all time favorite was the brilliant translation of the name of Obelix's dog. In French (Belgian?) 'Ideefixe', in English 'Dogmatix'. Wonderful!<br />Mind you, the Corsican Boneywasawarriorwayayix was a bit over the top...Archduke Piccolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533325665451889661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4569339779918111050.post-10136646278486186102010-01-30T00:18:30.100+01:002010-01-30T00:18:30.100+01:00I think you will find it is a peculiarly British t...I think you will find it is a peculiarly British thing. While other nationalities may dabble with T i C, when it comes to looking down on the rest of the world, you need to be a Brit! How else can you explain away the Charge of the Light Brigade, Isandhlwana etc. <br /><br />There are numerous film and television comedies that poke fun at "foreigners"-especially "Europeans". There was an entire genre of films (the "Carry On" series) devoted to this kind of humour. It is all old style comedy now, so probably involves wargamers of a certain age!<br /><br />We are an island race, cut off from the rest of the world and reality...you will just have to forgive or ignore us I suppose!<br /> <br />MattAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4569339779918111050.post-24632386274810380852010-01-27T09:15:42.473+01:002010-01-27T09:15:42.473+01:00In the earliest days of 'Slingshot', the J...In the earliest days of 'Slingshot', the Journal of the venerable 'Society of Ancients', wtiticisms and 'TiC' attitude were not rare, specially in Tony Bath's reports of his Hyboria campaign.<br />As for 'funny names' and names involving puns, they are a tradition in France -as everywhere else, I'm sure: not in 'realistic' comedies (it would be 'overdoing') but in avowed fanciful settings, such as some popular comics (despite your young age you may know a little about them -so-called 'French' <i>bande dessinee</i> came from Belgium after WWII) such as as <i>Asterix</i> and (more relevant here, being set in the 18th C. -an an 'alternate' one, where a 'Germanic' kingdom tries to <a href="http://www.bedetheque.com/Couvertures/oumpahpah03eo.jpg" rel="nofollow">carve out a colony in North America</a>) <i><a href="http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoempa_pa" rel="nofollow">Oumpah-pah</a></i>.<br /><br />Then for me I feel more confortable when wargamers unambiguously show they don't take their hobby *too* seriously. <br />Why so? If you think a second about it, to associate <b>war</b> with <b>game</b> is rather abominable, obscene. Then, children *can* innocuously 'kill' each other -"Bang! You're dead!"- when playing cow-boys and Indians or pirates and Spaniards or whatever. Children are innocent but not stupid: how deeply taken by their games, they fully know that it's not serious, that they are playing. Thus, I prefer when wargamers acknowledge -even if implicitly, by pitching the cheese-named regiments of Fromagere against the beer-named regiments of Alemark-that they are adults playing with toy soldiers. With the innocence of children.abdul666https://www.blogger.com/profile/16172686098173637906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4569339779918111050.post-40523588301496280342010-01-27T03:41:14.787+01:002010-01-27T03:41:14.787+01:00Possibly the humorist is trying to inject a certai...Possibly the humorist is trying to inject a certain levity into an activity that does have its ... erm ... grave side. But it also sometimes serves to supply a deficient imagination when it comes to names of personalities. For instance, no musician myself, I tend to associate classical music with Vienna, myself, and so my imperial personalities, following the lead of Young and Lawford, (not to mention the precedent of the Piccolomini family)are discovered to have names of musical instruments: The canny but aged Emperor Violoncello, Archduchesses Harmonica and Viola; the Archduke Piccolo, Graf Tympani, Baron Glockenspiel and the like. The Electoral personalities are somewhat more bibulous in appellation: Barons von Muller-Thurgau, von Rheineck and von Steinlager; Graf von Carlsberg... and so forth. The exception is the Elector himself: Draco XVI, latest in the long and fiery Spitzensparken dynasty.<br /><br />As for names of units, Altmark-Uberheim did have in its service the Ewige-Blumenkraft Regiment, but eventually I decided to go down the Grant/Young/Lawford track and use real regimental names. My Imperialists use Austrians; the Electorate, Prussian; M'yasma look to Russia for its precedents, and Ursaminor to Sweden. The Landgravate of Jotun-Erbsten (itself an anagram) was modelled pretty much upon Napoleonic Hessen-Darmstadt.<br /><br />I don't know how other nationalities think of this, but I do like 'Joke' names. English is a rich source of these, but other languages (for non-speakers of those languages) seem almost as fertile. I seem to recall from Charles Grant Snr, a certain MacAbre, an executioner in the service of the Vereinigte Freie Stadt, and the lovely and lethal Bella Donna, courtesan and spy.<br /><br />I could go on, but I'll just leave you with this thought: 'the pun is mightier than the swearword...'<br /><br />Cheers,<br />IonArchduke Piccolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533325665451889661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4569339779918111050.post-82328027385771843322010-01-27T03:06:35.481+01:002010-01-27T03:06:35.481+01:00Not sure what you mean by TiC humor here - my dict...Not sure what you mean by TiC humor here - my dictionary defines it as gentle irony. I myself have a penchant for puns. I also like to use names that are plausible if a bit improbable.<br /><br />There are different kinds of humor and different people have different preferences. For example, I'm not a 3 Stooges fan, but I love Laurel and Hardy movies. There's nothing wrong with keeping the humor subtle (or leaving it out altogether, if you prefer). I think for some the humor is a response to some gamers who take things overly serious. For some I think they picked it up from the OS classics by Grant and Young.<br /><br />In the end it all comes down to personal taste and individual preference. Do whatever makes it enjoyable for you. :)<br /><br />And the chocolate makes up for a multitude of other shortcomings! ;)Fitz-Badgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15510866929782142007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4569339779918111050.post-30642788554985005982010-01-26T16:53:13.764+01:002010-01-26T16:53:13.764+01:00We would certainly have to de-frock various OS aut...We would certainly have to de-frock various OS authors if Tic humour was mandatory. I don't believe you will find it in Featherstone and certainly not in Joe Morschauser's work. I'm not exactly a renowned sociologist, (tavern philosopher would be closer) but it seems to me that it is perceived rightly or wrongly to be an English characteristic (and I mean English not British) and gamers on this side of the Big Water will tend to adopt a phoney 'English' accent when expressing it verbally. Odd that one never hears even an "hola mon vieux" from would Napoleons as the enemy's dice all come up 1's. <br />-RossRoss Mac rmacfa@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04053555991679802013noreply@blogger.com